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D G.
2023-11-24 23:53:55 UTC
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I never burned a Gohonzon, EVER. I returned my Nichikan
Gohonzon to SGI. Who wrote that I burned my Gohonzon?
Not only have I never harmed a Gohonzon, I guess I now
have people pretending to be me and lying about burning a
Gohonzon that I returned.

It's GARBAGE!!!

DFD
D G.
2023-11-25 00:10:31 UTC
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I never burned a Gohonzon, EVER. I returned my Nichikan
Gohonzon to SGI. Who wrote that I burned my Gohonzon?
Not only have I never harmed a Gohonzon, I guess I now
have people pretending to be me and lying about burning a
Gohonzon that I returned.
It's GARBAGE!!!
DFD
I just saw your old post saying I burned my Gohonzon. NO,
NO! NO! I don't burn up Gohonzons, I returned it. That would be
EDWIN Wooley or other people who destroy Gohonzons
from any Nichiren Sect they oppose. NOT ME!!. I returned my
Gohonzon back to an SGI community center in the Valley, and
I would have returned a Gohonzon from another sect if someone
trusted me with the fact they wanted it returned. I did NOT tell
SGI the return was mine. Why not? I don't want or need a 3rd
degree when I have already made a decision based on YEARS
of lies people told about me, and my experiences should have
should have been a good, not what SGI made me out to be.
As usual, major BS in the organization. Your people need to learn
not to lie about others and quit calling people names and lying
about the Priesthood. I was just told that the Priests are like
Catholic Priests and molest little boys. BS! I have never seen
a priest act in that way! So, STOP TELLING LIES about people!

You really need to grow up and be HONEST!

DFD
D G.
2023-11-25 02:52:44 UTC
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I never burned a Gohonzon, EVER. I returned my Nichikan
Gohonzon to SGI. Who wrote that I burned my Gohonzon?
Not only have I never harmed a Gohonzon, I guess I now
have people pretending to be me and lying about burning a
Gohonzon that I returned.
It's GARBAGE!!!
DFD
I just saw your old post saying I burned my Gohonzon. NO,
NO! NO! I don't burn up Gohonzons, I returned it. That would be
EDWIN Wooley or other people who destroy Gohonzons
from any Nichiren Sect they oppose. NOT ME!!. I returned my
Gohonzon back to an SGI community center in the Valley, and
I would have returned a Gohonzon from another sect if someone
trusted me with the fact they wanted it returned. I did NOT tell
SGI the return was mine. Why not? I don't want or need a 3rd
degree when I have already made a decision based on YEARS
of lies people told about me, and my experiences should have
should have been a good, not what SGI made me out to be.
As usual, major BS in the organization. Your people need to learn
not to lie about others and quit calling people names and lying
about the Priesthood. I was just told that the Priests are like
Catholic Priests and molest little boys. BS! I have never seen
a priest act in that way! So, STOP TELLING LIES about people!
You really need to grow up and be HONEST!
DFD
Here all the all the LIES SGI tells about me...... MANY MORE TOO,
such as "I am schizophrenic" when someone hacks me and posts
something thart I didn't write. That I burned my own Gohonzon, which
I NEVER did. Once again I am lied about!

In 1982 the Nichiren Shoshu priest was told that I ruined my Gohonzon
from my district leader (Mark Kaufman) NO, I did not. My father dropped a
dresser and the Gohonzon got paint on it, because he hit something in the
cement and the dolly went flying, as he was tired. We were moving my things
to a new apartment. A few drawers came open when he dropped it and paint
from one drawer spilled on my Gohonzon, which was wrapped up in another
drawer.

In the mid 1980s my ex told his leaders that I threw him out of our
apartment for no reason. There was a reason. He HIT ME! He forgot
to mention he HIT ME and that's why he was thrown OUT. I did make
sure he was safe. So, I didn't do it without caring about his welfare.

In the 1990's an SGI member, I was dating, told his friends that I went
out on him. He told several people that's why we were breaking up. NO,
he stayed at his wife's home, with his WIFE while pretending to be SINGLE
to other women he dated, but he didn't tell several women, including me, that
he was dating them while he was still married. He said he was divorced
because she went out on him.

He also told his ex girlfriend not to snoop in his things, she said. She did
snoop and found out he was still married and told me about it. This same
guy pretended to be my friend and told that same woman that I was
a nutcase from the Nichiren Shoshu in a window, when went outside to smoke,
I was smoking a cigarette under his open window, outside. I soon found out
that he was not a "good" friend to me because he lied about me to the gal he
I was helping do housework with, as she was sick. I guess it completely slipped
his mind he was married. I forgave him for talking about me, as the Priesthood
dispute was new, but later, I quickly learned he was married and I didn't forgive him
for doing that to me. He made his friend think I was the bad guy. NO, he was
lying to his ex girlfriend, later me when I dated him, and someone I knew he dated
after me. None of us knew he was MARRIED.

My ex told everyone that I forced him to marry me when we got a divorce. I had
to laugh at that one. What did I do, put a gun to his head and tell him to marry me?
NO!! He married me in Las Vegas as we were vacationing there and had planned
it because I had access to a free hotel room because of where I worked. More lies
from the SGI....and on and on it goes...

LATER, in 2014 I returned my Gohonzon to the Burbank center. I didn't tell them it
was mine because I knew Dave Baldschun. I didn't want a long talk with him or anyone.
else. I just wanted to return it, as my fruit went bad, my life wasn't working and SGI was
making me into their SIN EATER because I was in the Priesthood. As it was. Margie Hall
had already offered the person who was trying to sponsor me, a leadership position if she
oined SGI. That same leader said to her own SGI members that she would listen to their
grievances but opted out of her word when SGI told her they had to go along with SGI.

And..... some woman, who was a neighbor where I lived, she said I was siding against her
with this woman who went out with her boyfriend. I didn't even know either of them, well.
She put me in the middle and I didn't even know they had a problem. Another SGI assumption
that was NOT what happened.

And Ms. Van Velsire, years ago, said I was forcing her to help this man who was homeless.
I asked her and she didn't answer. So, I brought the man to her. She got very angry and
said I was disturbing her. I guess asking a leader to PLEASE help shakubuku someone in need
was DISTURBING her night.

Then, a member who asked me if she could come to MY district, I said she could come to a
meeting. I asked her to ask my chapter leader if she could join and she did. The chapter leader
said yes but agreed she should have gone to her district and straightened out things.. Then, after
the gal started trouble between everyone in the district and me saying that I didn't help her when
she needed help. Then. the district was mad at me for bringing her there. I didn't say she could join,
I merely asked my leader if she could because the woman said her leader was mean to her. I didn't
want to touch the problem myself because there was an altercation between her and her leader. After
that I was the problem, the district saddled me with her anger and she changed to another Han.

ENOUGH!!!! Quit telling LIES about me! I am NOT schizophrenic, I did not try to get rid of the
member. I did not force my ex to marry me, I did not lie about the Gohonzon being destroyed
and "my dog" did not eat my homework" as my district leader said. I did not deny someone i
need Gohonzon, I was not mean to my ex, he hit me, and I do not ASSUME things like the SGI does.

So STOP bothering me; I quit! I don't belong to this MESS anymore. You are not my leaders and
you are not honest people! SO STOP LYING ABOUT ME!

DFD
Chas.
2023-11-25 07:58:40 UTC
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I never burned a Gohonzon, EVER. I returned my Nichikan
Gohonzon to SGI. Who wrote that I burned my Gohonzon?
Not only have I never harmed a Gohonzon, I guess I now
have people pretending to be me and lying about burning a
Gohonzon that I returned.
I have never accused you of burning a Gohonzon. I challenge you to find such a posting with my -Chas. signature on it making such an accusation. I'm sure it is just this kind of misdirected fantasy world raving that gets you called all kinds of things, but it never came from me.

I have challenged you on attacks here against the SGI, Sensei and your all around confusions about what Buddhism is and isn't (Buddhism isn't Wicca, and vice-versa). That's all.

-Chas.
D G.
2023-11-26 05:45:22 UTC
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Post by Chas.
I never burned a Gohonzon, EVER. I returned my Nichikan
Gohonzon to SGI. Who wrote that I burned my Gohonzon?
Not only have I never harmed a Gohonzon, I guess I now
have people pretending to be me and lying about burning a
Gohonzon that I returned.
I have never accused you of burning a Gohonzon. I challenge you to find such a posting with my -Chas. signature on it making such an accusation. I'm sure it is just this kind of misdirected fantasy world raving that gets you called all kinds of things, but it never came from me.
I have challenged you on attacks here against the SGI, Sensei and your all around confusions about what Buddhism is and isn't (Buddhism isn't Wicca, and vice-versa). That's all.
-Chas.
So, you think YOU are the SGI now? I don't think so. Your a little man,
with a little opinion and one of many of the behavioral problems SGI
constantly has.

I don't' see your name on this post. Do YOU? Guilty of something?
Someone took MY POST and changed it to read I said that I burned
my Gohonzon. I didn't say YOU. I said SGI did it. Everyone knows
SGI has an entire organization of behaviorally problematic people.

D
Chas.
2023-11-26 11:55:46 UTC
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Post by Chas.
I never burned a Gohonzon, EVER. I returned my Nichikan
Gohonzon to SGI. Who wrote that I burned my Gohonzon?
Not only have I never harmed a Gohonzon, I guess I now
have people pretending to be me and lying about burning a
Gohonzon that I returned.
I have never accused you of burning a Gohonzon. I challenge you to find such a posting with my -Chas. signature on it making such an accusation. I'm sure it is just this kind of misdirected fantasy world raving that gets you called all kinds of things, but it never came from me.
I have challenged you on attacks here against the SGI, Sensei and your all around confusions about what Buddhism is and isn't (Buddhism isn't Wicca, and vice-versa). That's all.
-Chas.
So, you think YOU are the SGI now? I don't think so. Your a little man,
with a little opinion and one of many of the behavioral problems SGI
constantly has.
I don't' see your name on this post. Do YOU? Guilty of something?
Someone took MY POST and changed it to read I said that I burned
my Gohonzon. I didn't say YOU. I said SGI did it. Everyone knows
SGI has an entire organization of behaviorally problematic people.
D
As usual, you change the subject when anyone rebuts your foolishness.

First you said,

"I just saw your old post saying I burned my Gohonzon. NO,
NO! NO! I don't burn up Gohonzons, I returned it."

When I challenge you to find a posting where I said that, and you will not, because I NEVER SAID THAT.

Your delusion has merged together everyone you hate into one big blob of an enemy saying all kinds of things that none of us individually ever said.

Your delusion is feeding your angst, and that cycle of foolishness continues.

What I have accused you of is an uncountable number of slanders against the Three Treasures.

-Chas.
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Nichiren Daishonin never suffered Zen and other slanders of the Lotus Sutra without a rebuke, and nor shall I. ...

The three principles regarding slanderers of the Lotus Sutra are highlighted in BOLD, below: ...

From "Letter to Akimoto", WND I, pp. 1016-1018: ...
https://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/wnd-1/Content/144#para-14 ...

. .. But I, Nichiren, one man alone, declare that the recitation
. .. of the name of Amida Buddha is an action that leads to
. .. rebirth in the hell of incessant suffering, that THE ZEN
. .. SCHOOL IS THE INVENTION OF THE HEAVENLY DEVIL, that the
. .. True Word school is an evil doctrine that will destroy the
. .. country, and that the Precepts school and the observers of
. .. the precepts are traitors to the nation.
. ..
. .. Because I do so, from the sovereign on down to the common
. .. people, all people fear me more than they would an enemy of
. .. their parents, an enemy from a past existence, a plotter of
. .. treason, a night raider, or a bandit. They rage, they
. .. curse, they strike at me. Those who slander me are given
. .. grants of land, while those who praise me are driven from
. .. their areas or fined, and the people who desire to kill me
. .. are singled out for rewards. And on top of all this, I have
. .. twice incurred the wrath of the authorities.
. ..
. .. I am not only the strangest person alive in the world
. .. today; in the ninety reigns of human sovereigns, in the
. .. more than seven hundred years since the Buddhist teachings
. .. were first introduced to Japan, there has never been such a
. .. strange person. I, Nichiren, am like the great comet of the
. .. Bun'ei era (1264), a disorder of the heavens such as had
. .. never happened in Japan before that time. I, Nichiren, am
. .. like the great earthquake of the Shōka era (1257), a freak
. .. of the earth that had never before occurred in this land.
. ..
. .. In Japan since the history of this country began, there
. .. have been twenty-six perpetrators of treason. The first was
. .. Prince Ōyama, the second was Ōishi no Yamamaru, and so on
. .. down to the twenty-fifth, Yoritomo, and the twenty-sixth,
. .. Yoshitoki. The first twenty-four of these men were struck
. .. down by the imperial forces and had their heads put on
. .. display at the prison gate, or their corpses left to rot in
. .. the mountain fields. But the last two succeeded in
. .. overthrowing the sovereign and gaining complete control of
. .. the nation, and at that time the imperial rule came to an
. .. end.
. ..
. .. AND YET THESE VARIOUS PERPETRATORS OF TREASON ARE LESS
. .. HATED BY THE MASS OF PEOPLE THAN IS NICHIREN. If you ask
. .. why that should be, I will tell you. THE LOTUS SUTRA
. .. CONTAINS A PASSAGE DECLARING THAT THAT SUTRA IS FIRST AMONG
. .. ALL THE SUTRAS. However, the Great Teacher Kōbō declares
. .. that the Lotus Sutra ranks third, while the Great Teacher
. .. Jikaku declares that the Lotus Sutra ranks second, and the
. .. Great Teacher Chishō agrees with Jikaku. Hence at present,
. .. when the priests of Mount Hiei, Tō-ji, and Onjō-ji look
. .. upon the Lotus Sutra, they read the passage that says the
. .. Lotus Sutra is first, but what they understand when they
. .. read it is that the Lotus Sutra is second or third in
. .. standing.
. ..
. .. Neither the nobility nor the warrior clans have any
. .. detailed information about this matter. But since the
. .. eminent priests in whom they place their faith all
. .. subscribe to this opinion, the laity share the same view as
. .. their teachers.
. ..
. .. With regard to other groups, the Zen school describes
. .. itself as a teaching transmitted apart from the sutras, and
. .. hence speaks with scorn of the Lotus Sutra. The Nembutsu
. .. school asserts that "not even one person in a thousand" can
. .. be saved through the other teachings and that "not a single
. .. person has ever attained Buddhahood" through them, by which
. .. it means that, in comparison to the Nembutsu, the Lotus
. .. Sutra is too lofty to practice and therefore ought to be
. .. rejected. The Precepts school is composed of Hinayana
. .. doctrines. Even in the Former Day of the Law the Buddha
. .. would not condone the spread of such teachings, so surely
. .. he would never approve of them being propagated in the
. .. Latter Day of the Law, causing the ruler of the nation to
. .. be confused and misled.
. ..
. .. Three women of antiquity-Ta Chi, Mo His, and Pao Ssu-misled
. .. the rulers of the three dynasties and caused them to lose
. .. their thrones. And in the same way, these evil doctrines
. .. are propagated throughout the nation and cause the Lotus
. .. Sutra to lose its proper place. As a result, the great
. .. sovereigns Antoku, Takahira, and the others were cast aside
. .. by the Sun Goddess and Great Bodhisattva Hachiman and
. .. drowned in the sea or were exiled to distant islands. They
. .. were overthrown by families who for generations in the past
. .. had been their followers, and this was because they had
. .. lost the protection of the heavenly deities. They put their
. .. faith in those who are enemies of the Lotus Sutra. But
. .. because there was no one who understood this, they had no
. .. way to learn of their error. This is illustrated in the
. .. statement that wise men can perceive the cause of things,
. .. just as snakes know the way of snakes.
. ..
. .. I, Nichiren, am no wise man. But just as a snake can
. .. understand the mind of a dragon and crows can foretell the
. .. coming of good or bad fortune in the world, so I was able
. .. to fathom the course that events would take. AND I KNEW
. .. THAT, IF I SPOKE OUT ON THE MATTER, I WOULD INSTANTLY MEET
. .. WITH PUNISHMENT, WHILE IF I DID NOT SPEAK OUT, I WOULD FALL
. .. INTO THE GREAT AVĪCHI HELL.
. ..
. .. In practicing the teaching of the Lotus Sutra, THERE ARE
. .. THREE PRINCIPLES that must be understood. THE FIRST IS THAT
. .. REGARDING SLANDERERS. The monk Superior Intent, the monk
. .. Shore of Suffering, the Scholar Vimalamitra, and the Great
. .. Arrogant Brahman are examples. These men dressed their
. .. bodies in the three robes, lifted a single begging bowl up
. .. before their eyes, and meticulously observed the two
. .. hundred and fifty precepts, and yet they were in fact
. .. enemies of the Mahayana and in the end fell into the great
. .. citadel of the hell of incessant suffering.
. ..
. .. In recent times in Japan there have been men like Kōbō,
. .. Jikaku, and Chishō who observed the precepts just as those
. .. earlier monks did and who did not differ from them in
. .. wisdom. But because they asserted that the True Word
. .. teaching of the Mahāvairochana Sutra ranked first and the
. .. Lotus Sutra ranked second or third, if my view of the
. .. matter should by any chance be correct, they are now in the
. .. great citadel of the hell of incessant suffering.
. ..
. .. It is a fearful thing to utter such words, and still more
. .. does one hesitate to put them into writing. But when the
. .. Buddha himself has declared that the Lotus Sutra is
. .. foremost, IF ONE LEARNS OF A PERSON WHO RANKS IT SECOND OR
. .. THIRD AND, OUT OF FEAR OF OTHER PEOPLE OR OF GOVERNMENT
. .. AUTHORITIES, FAILS TO SPEAK OUT, THEN "ONE IS IN FACT HIS
. .. ENEMY," THAT IS, ONE IS ACTING AS A FEARFUL ENEMY TO ALL
. .. LIVING BEINGS. THIS IS STATED IN BOTH THE SUTRAS AND THE
. .. COMMENTARIES, AND SO I SPEAK OUT.
. ..
. .. To speak out without fearing others and without flinching
. .. before society-this is what the sutra means when it says,
. .. "We care nothing for our bodies or lives but are anxious
. .. only for the unsurpassed way."
. ....
. .. It is not that one does not recall the calumny, the staves
. .. and stones that were suffered by Bodhisattva Never
. .. Disparaging. It is not that one is unafraid of the world.
. .. It is just that the censure of the Lotus Sutra is even more
. .. severe. It is like the case of Sukenari and Tokimune, who
. .. acted as they did even though they found themselves in the
. .. camp of the shogun, because they longed to avenge
. .. themselves upon their enemy and were ashamed at the thought
. .. of failing to do so.
. ..
. .. THE ABOVE IS THE PRINCIPLE RELATING TO INDIVIDUAL SLANDERERS.
. ..
. .. AS FOR THE FAMILIES OF SLANDERERS, the family members may
. .. pass their entire lives without slandering the Lotus Sutra.
. .. But even though they practice it every hour of the day and
. .. night, the fact that they were born into the family of a
. .. slanderer means that they will invariably be reborn in the
. .. hell of incessant suffering. For example, those persons who
. .. were born into the family of the monk Superior Intent or
. .. the monk Shore of Suffering and became their disciples or
. .. lay supporters all fell, against their will, into the hell
. .. of incessant suffering. Or it is like the family members of
. .. Yoshimori. Setting aside those who gave their lives in
. .. battle, even the children still in their mothers' wombs,
. .. torn from their mothers' bellies, were killed before birth.
. ..
. .. Now I, Nichiren, have mentioned the three great teachers
. .. Kōbō, Jikaku, and Chishō, who boldly state in their
. .. writings that the Lotus Sutra represents the region of
. .. darkness, that it is a false and deluded doctrine. If what
. .. the Lotus Sutra itself says is correct, then what do you
. .. suppose will become of the priests at Mount Hiei, Tō-ji,
. .. Onjō-ji, the seven major temples of Nara-at all the 11,037
. .. temples throughout Japan? If the examples cited earlier are
. .. any indication, they will without a doubt fall into the
. .. great citadel of the hell of incessant suffering.
. ..
. .. SUCH IS THE PRINCIPLE RELATING TO THE FAMILIES OF SLANDERERS.
. ..
. .. NEXT, WE COME TO THE COUNTRY OF SLANDERERS. Those persons
. .. who happen to live in a country where there are slanderers
. .. of the Law will all-everyone in the entire country-be
. .. condemned to the great citadel of the hell of incessant
. .. suffering. Just as all the various waters gather in the
. .. great ocean, so all kinds of misfortune gather about such a
. .. country. They will abound in the way that grass and trees
. .. abound on a mountain.
. ..
. .. WHEN THE THREE CALAMITIES PILE UP MONTH AFTER MONTH AND THE
. .. SEVEN DISASTERS APPEAR DAY AFTER DAY, THEN HUNGER AND
. .. THIRST WILL PREVAIL AND THE COUNTRY WILL BE CHANGED INTO A
. .. REALM OF HUNGRY SPIRITS. WHEN PLAGUE AND DISEASE SWEEP OVER
. .. THE LAND, THE COUNTRY WILL BECOME A REALM OF HELL. WHEN
. .. WARFARE BREAKS OUT, IT WILL BE TRANSFORMED INTO A REALM OF
. .. ASURAS. AND WHEN PARENTS, BROTHERS, AND SISTERS, IGNORING
. .. THE FACT THAT THEY ARE KIN, BEGIN TAKING EACH OTHER FOR A
. .. HUSBAND OR WIFE, THE COUNTRY WILL BECOME A REALM OF
. .. ANIMALS. UNDER SUCH CIRCUMSTANCES, ONE DOES NOT HAVE TO
. .. WAIT UNTIL DEATH TO FALL INTO THE THREE EVIL PATHS. WHILE
. .. ONE IS STILL ALIVE, THE COUNTRY IN WHICH ONE LIVES WILL BE
. .. CHANGED INTO THESE FOUR EVIL REALMS.
. ..
. .. SUCH IS THE PRINCIPLE RELATING TO A COUNTRY WHERE
. .. SLANDERERS LIVE.

You should ceasing slandering the Law and the three treasures, Denise Gold.
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