Post by xyzBuddhism is about coexistence and tolerance
Everybody is free and people should attract each other via good examples
Those who either does good or slander will have their acts answered
And the response will come from neither me nor you
This is why I let people alone with their free will
Why waste time with a "combat" that sums zero
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I coexist with and tolerate the existence of slanderers. I don't advocate coercion or any corrective action outside of their own common-sense self-correction.
However, you all don't get to have your own private set of "facts" that do not align objectively with the facts objectively present in the real world.
1. Your totally fictional smearing accounts of the SGI and Sensei will be refuted by me.
2. Your totally distorted views of Buddhism which negate or undermine the Buddha's highest teaching in the Lotus Sutra will be refuted by me, via quotes from the Lotus Sutra at nichirenlibrary.org.
3. Your totally distorted views of Nichiren Daishonin's Buddhism of the Lotus Sutra will be refuted by me, with quotes from the Gosho and the other references from nichirenlibrary.org.
The fact that you responded to my quotes from Nichiren Daishonin that completely refute and negate your views of "coexistence" and "tolerance"
... [which in reality mean nothing more than "you have to agree with whatever crap I say" or "I think Buddhism is this or that" - which neither the Buddha, for which that "ism" is named, does not agree and which the Buddha of the Latter Day of the Law Nichiren Daishonin completely disagrees with]
... the fact of you ignoring what the Buddha and the Daishonin say, that says to me that you are clearly not a follower of Nichiren Daishonin, and that means you are not a Buddhist.
Buddhism in the Latter Day of the Law IS ONLY Lotus Sutra Buddhism, because the provisional teachings and their practices and mixing practices have all become enemies of the Law according to Nichiren Daishonin, which was predicted by the Buddha as well in the Lotus Sutra.
Religious Tolerance does not mean repeating and accepting each other's erroneous views. Islamic Terror and Islamist views have made this point in a very pronounced way in the last two decades. Before that, the point was made by the international crusade of the communist manifesto of Karl Marx, who made lying a virtue (still practiced by Putin, et al.) Before that, or during it, we had the Nazi SS Aryan religious crusade in the West and the Imperial State Zen/Imperial Way Shinto Syncretic Buddhism/Nichiren Shu fostered Emperor's religious Pacific War of conquest and enslavement of the Pacific Rim.
Evil feeds on your kind of "tolerance" and it always leads to war and megadeath. Here is a script from and NPR report on this point:
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Religious Tolerance: Transcribed from NPR +
This segment is from National Public Radio
. Weekend Edition - Sunday Sunday, January 27, 2002
.
. Religious Tolerance
. -------------------
.
. Host John Ydstie speaks with Dr. Joseph Hough, Jr.,
. President of New York's Union Theological Seminary,
. about the state of religious tolerance amongst
. Christians in America and why tolerance is not a lofty
. enough goal. (9:00)
.
. Host: In an article earlier this month in the New York
. Times, Dr. Hough called on Christians to adopt a new
. theology, a new approach to other religions.
.
. Dr. Hough: Tolerance is a response of a dominant
. religion towards subordinate religions. And if you think
. about it, the use of the term itself suggests that we a
. decision to make about whether you can operate in our
. context with minimal interference. Now, I don't want to
. be misunderstood, because I think we need a lot more
. tolerance in this country than we have, that is
. certainly important. But I think we need to go beyond
. that, and the way we go beyond that is, I think to begin
. to acknowledge that in our own tradition we have a
. theological problem that prevents us from giving full
. and authentic respect to other religious traditions.
.
. Host: What is that theological problem?
.
. Dr. Hough: It's what I call the Exclusionary Principle.
. It is the claim that God is only known, truly and fully,
. in the Christian tradition and not in any other
. tradition. And that the knowledge of God that might
. appear in other places in the world is insufficient, in
. the Christian tradition it is claimed to be insufficient
. for the salvation of human beings.
.
. Host: Now that's not an exclusive problem for
. Christianity is it?
.
. Dr. Hough: Of course not. But I'm a committed Christian,
. and so I begin with the theological problem in my own
. faith, and I think that it's up to other people to raise
. this question within the context of their own faith
. tradition. I do think all religions tend to move toward
. a kind of Exclusionary Principle, because the claim is
. that what we're looking at is thinking and believing in
. the highest one, or the highest value. And if you come
. through a single tradition to that understanding and to
. that revelation, it's tempting to say "This is the one
. true one", because it's changed your life. And I think
. it's wonderful to be passionate about your faith. I am
. passionately Christian. But part of being passionately
. Christian is having a little humility about any claim to
. absolute knowledge about what God is doing in the world.
. I know something about what God is doing in the world,
. because I've experienced it in my faith. But I would
. never want to make that claim that, "I know everything
. that God's doing in the world that's redemptive, and
. it's only in my tradition." That to me, is a step that
. divides human beings from each other across the board.
.
. Host: Why isn't it all right simply to be tolerant and
. to say, "You believe what you believe. I'll believe what
. I believe. I won't try to convince you. You don't have
. to try to convince me, but we can believe different
. things and get along." What's wrong with that.
.
. Dr. Hough: Well that's not how tolerance operates for
. the most part. That's indifference. It's sort of like
. one of our Presidents said one time, "It doesn't make
. any difference what you believe, as long as you believe
. it." It does make a great deal of difference what you
. believe. What you believe about your own religious faith
. and what you believe about the religious faith of other
. persons. And if you want to just draw a line, the
. Exclusionary Principle ultimately has appeared in
. Christian history in a variety of ways. Just have a look
. at the history of Christians and Jews. The Crusades
. against the Muslims. It shows that in the name of Jesus
. Christ, the Prince of Peace, Christians have killed,
. looted, raped, and murdered and a host of other
. transgressions. In the the name of Jesus Christ, why?
. Because ultimately the Exclusionary Principle says that
. these people are infidels and therefore they are
. "Enemies of God". There's a a sort of line that you
. move, when you make that claim. And if you look at some
. of the statements made by American religious leaders
. about Islam & some have said, "It's a Satanic religion."
. The president of one of the major denominations of this
. country, just a few years ago, described Hinduism,
. Buddhism and Islam, as instruments of Satan in the
. world. I think that there's got to be a way to combine a
. passionate response to the revelation of God in your own
. tradition, with a capacity to say, "It's valid for other
. persons to experience this, in a another culture, in a
. different way, and it is equally redemptive for them."
.
. Host: How do you respond to members of your own church
. who might quote you these words from the New Testament
. that are attributed to Jesus. That Jesus says, "I am the
. Way, the Truth and the Light. No one comes to the
. Father, but by me." How did you pass that roadblock?
.
. Dr. Hough: Well, for me that's not a roadblock, because
. the Johannon materials were written by a Jewish man to
. other Jewish followers of Jesus. At the time it was not
. a church. There was a Jesus movement, and it was in
. contention with other Jewish movements about the future
. of Judaism. The answer the Jesus movement gave was:
. "Look , we're expecting the Messiah to come back. We
. need to be ready & ", in the words of John the Baptist,
. "& to repent." That was not absent in other groups in
. Judaism, but there was this sense: that while the
. Messiah was to be expected, in the interim, Judaism
. needed a unifying center and it became the Torah. So
. that conflict between those two was very intense. You
. see, what you've got is an intra-religious conflict.
. Now, by the end of the first century there was a church.
. And the church was predominantly gentile, so they didn't
. know this history. All of those sayings, in John and
. other places in the Gospels, were then translated into
. an anti-Jewish position, then you had the emergence of
. the Christ-killer myth which was the basis for
. enormously brutal persecution of Jews down through the
. centuries by Christians. So, I just think what happened
. is, to just put it out there bluntly, that there is an
. interpretive mistake here, and it needs to be corrected.
. The blessing of the Jews and their Covenant is still
. valid, and it's just as valid as the blessing of the
. Christians in the New Covenant.
.
. Host: How do you deal with fringe cults that might be a
. danger to individuals who join them, or to society, the
. David Koresh's of the world, or the Aum Shinrikyo's of
. the world, the Japanese cult that attacked the Tokyo
. subway with lethal gas.
.
. Dr. Hough: Yes, I just don't think that all religions
. are morally permissable. But, that's a moral test. The
. principle I operate on is that redemption means God's
. activity in the world to bring hope, promise and
. redemption to human beings. And any religious group
. that's acting in the world that brings destruction upon
. other people cannot be possibly acting with the God I
. know. And that's true with the highest and best of all
. the world's great religions. I think that some of the
. things that Christian fundamentalism is advocating in
. the United States are destructive. And I do think, that
. they simply do not represent the heart in the best of
. Christianity. That's true of fundamentalist Islam, and
. any other religion that's acting totally on an
. Exclusionary Principle in acting in a destructive way
. toward other human beings, on the basis of classifying
. them as less than human. The term used is usually
. infidel.
.
. Host: You've been preaching this view since before
. September 11th, but have you found any more interest in
. it after September 11th?
.
. Dr. Hough: What I've said has been said by some scholars
. years ago. But, the response to this small article has
. been so overwhelming that I think we haven't realized
. the degree to which many people who aren't theological
. specialists, are ahead of some theologians and the
. clergy on this issue. The overwhelming response from
. Christians, who have written and emailed and called has
. been positive. There are a number, whose responses are
. less than positive, and some warning me the fact that
. God will bring judgement upon me because I'm a false
. teacher. Actually, I'm willing to take that risk.
.
. Host: The Reverend Dr. Joseph Hough, Jr. is President of
. New York's Union Theological Seminary. He joined us from
. our New York Bureau. Well, thank you very much.
.
. Dr. Hough: Thank you.
A Comment ... notice how in the last three questions he discusses evil religions. Where religion crushes people underfoot, or randomly destroys the lives of people, it stops being about the ultimate, and becomes a less-than-ultimate political movement, or merely banditry. That is the line where religious tolerance ends. We fight evil, without fail, as best we can .... or the darkness will surely descend.
The Three Treasures (Law, Buddha and Sangha) spring forth from the True Teachings. They are your inconspicuous benefit of practice according to the True Teachings.
. Treasure of the Law - The life condition you acquire
. from the correct practice. This appears to be
. indistinguishable from Happiness.
.
. Treasure of the Buddha - The determination for Kosen
. Rufu (widespread propagation of the Law), that you
. acquire from correct practice. This appears to be
. indistinguishable from Buddhahood.
.
. Treasure of the Sangha - Activities of the Sangha which
. are centered around the Gohonzon, around propagation of
. the Law, that you acquire from the correct practice as a
. group. This appears to be indistinguishable (in
. microcosm) from Kosen Rufu, itself.
That inconspicuous benefit is undermined in two ways:
. 1. Slander of the True Teachings which are the source of
. the Three Treasures. This means any action which
. consists of accepting, retaining an attachment to, or
. worst of all transmitting distorted teachings. Any of
. these are like upholding the distortion of the Law, next
. to the Law. All Three Treasures will suffer as a result.
.
. 2. Slander of any one of the Three Treasures as a means
. to protect either of the other two. The net result will
. be diminishment of all three.
The end of upholding the Law is never, ever justified by intentional slander of the Law.
You can't win by giving up ground. If you stay silent when a slander occurs, to protect unity, it stops being itai doshin, the unity of many in body, one in mind (around the True Teachings) and becomes wagoso, the unity of following the priests, or leaders.
It's a difficult task, like threading the eye of a needle at a great distance.
-Chas.
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