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Father Daisaku Ikeda: Christian Mao TzeTung
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StraightCraig39&1/2
2003-11-10 14:34:52 UTC
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9-15-00 SGI-USA World Tribune study material:

"As the American poet and author Robert Bly says in Imn John,
we search for a "second father" or "a second king..." "We can
each ask ourselves: Is there anyone we know or have heard of
who possesses true greatness? If so, we should leave with him
or her" Early in my youth I faced a huge test in my relationship
with President Ikeda. I loved him from the first and considered
myself his disciple. But I was very young and had no clue about
the obstacles that I would face in the future.
After aparticularly severe set back in my life, I felt that I had failed
as a disciple. Before I realized it, I was overcome with
negativity. "I have failed him;' I thought. And my heart broke.
I had to think deeply about what he really meant to me. What
is a disciple? What does a mentor think about a disciple?
I came to understand that I had a very shallow view of the
mentor- disciple relationship. When I realized that President
Ikeda's belief in me, his belief in my potential, was unconditional,
I was able to pull myself out of the depths of that hell...
I heard the mentor disciple relationship explained once as
the mentor being like a transmitter and the disciples like receivers.
President Ikeda is alwIys transmitting. It is up to us to receive the
message. Several months ago I heard a young woman describe
her struggle with the mentor-disciple relationship. She was
devoted to her practice, to kosen rufli and her members. She was
acting as a person of the same mind as the mentor. But al though
she respected President Ikeda and thought he was "a great guy" as
she put it; her heart was closed to him. And this troubled her. She
was frustrated by the fact that she "just did'nt get it." This was some
thing she pondered through many prayers. Then one night as she
was standing alone out under the stars at the Florida Nature and
Culture Center, she had an awakening, a realization. It was a matter
of trust It wasn't President Ikeda; it was her ability to open her heart
to him. Her father had been a very respected professional, but
behind closed doors he was an abuser feared by the family. She
realized that this was the "wall" between herself and President Ikeda.
All ofher chanting and prayers had led her to see this and suddenly
she "got it" and tears began to flow down her cheeks. Her receiver
was turned on."

For the love of the mentor: "Open your heart to president Ikeda!"
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http://www.cebunet.com/sgi/lovementor.htm

http://news.sg-eye.com
http://www.sg-eye.com

The US Congress investigates the criminal and unethical antics of
SGI- USA Soka Gakkai CULT:
http://www.house.gov/reform/hearings/07.27.00/felonies_and_favors.htm

News about the SGI-USA Soka Gakkai CULT:
http://news.sg-eye.com

The SGI-USA CULT bastardizes Buddhism: members pray for temples to close
and for the death of people:
http://www.cebunet.com/sgi/distortion.htm

Other SGI-USA Soka Gakkai CULT information websites:
http://www.sg-eye.com
http://www.cebunet.com/sgi/chicagodir.htm
When priests stimulate themselves in toilets, their
good-natured brethren poke fun at them with 'benjoo
shooganku' (perfect enlightenment in the restroom), or
'benjoo keraku' (divine pleasure and happiness in the restroom).
Excited priests invented drinking games that shocked even
the most progressive criminal gangs in the pre-World War
II bars. In the game 'jushoku kanchoo' (the responsible post
of chief monk), a tipsy priest would leap up, unleash his organ,
and bounce it onto his startled neighbor's head. The bar rocked
with laughter. >etc
"I can't tell you how many people are turned off by
the idolatry of Ikeda. Our puhlications are embarassing."
Brian Holly

"I keep reading the little bits they put into the [new]Human Revolution and sometimes I
enjoy them and other times I am absolutely appalled by them. The only way I
can get through such passages is to rationalize them as written to please his
audience -- which is seeking such a hero."
Chris Holte

"We will study the Daishonin's teachings and President Ikeda's speeches as
means to correctly understand Buddhism."
Chicago Vice gen Dir Guy McCloskey
Chicago Headquarters Temple related Mtgs Report
Wed, 11 Aug 1999

"I think your sentiments are right on target, especially
concerning the massive proportion of column inches devoted to
Pres. Ikeda in the WT. A typical issue will have a lengthy speech,
an episode of the autohagiographic "New Human Revolution," a page of his
reminiscences, and maybe a photo he took taking up the whole back page. It's
embarassing. I don't dare use the WT for shakkubuku, even when
the non-Ikeda editorial content is terrific."
Brian Holly

"Many people say they have stopped subscribing to and reading the World Tribune
because they don't want to hear about the temple issue. Such people are
influenced. Increasing readership of the World Tribune will reconnect our
members to the "sun" of this Buddhism. It will also contribute to dispersing
the dark clouds hanging over our organization."
Greg Martin, Lecture on the "3 Powerful Enemies"
On the SokaSpit site
rudikazooti
2003-11-10 17:34:47 UTC
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Why that f gave me a little dejavu. Back in 70 something. I returned to the
temple where he was located and ended up shaking his hand.....After that I
decided to stay in a "bubble" protected from all s thrown from every
direction... including the devolution of all priests from my
life...until1998. When I rejoined the Sangha .... REAL
Post by StraightCraig39&1/2
"As the American poet and author Robert Bly says in Imn John,
we search for a "second father" or "a second king..." "We can
each ask ourselves: Is there anyone we know or have heard of
who possesses true greatness? If so, we should leave with him
or her" Early in my youth I faced a huge test in my relationship
with President Ikeda. I loved him from the first and considered
myself his disciple. But I was very young and had no clue about
the obstacles that I would face in the future.
After aparticularly severe set back in my life, I felt that I had failed
as a disciple. Before I realized it, I was overcome with
negativity. "I have failed him;' I thought. And my heart broke.
I had to think deeply about what he really meant to me. What
is a disciple? What does a mentor think about a disciple?
I came to understand that I had a very shallow view of the
mentor- disciple relationship. When I realized that President
Ikeda's belief in me, his belief in my potential, was unconditional,
I was able to pull myself out of the depths of that hell...
I heard the mentor disciple relationship explained once as
the mentor being like a transmitter and the disciples like receivers.
President Ikeda is alwIys transmitting. It is up to us to receive the
message. Several months ago I heard a young woman describe
her struggle with the mentor-disciple relationship. She was
devoted to her practice, to kosen rufli and her members. She was
acting as a person of the same mind as the mentor. But al though
she respected President Ikeda and thought he was "a great guy" as
she put it; her heart was closed to him. And this troubled her. She
was frustrated by the fact that she "just did'nt get it." This was some
thing she pondered through many prayers. Then one night as she
was standing alone out under the stars at the Florida Nature and
Culture Center, she had an awakening, a realization. It was a matter
of trust It wasn't President Ikeda; it was her ability to open her heart
to him. Her father had been a very respected professional, but
behind closed doors he was an abuser feared by the family. She
realized that this was the "wall" between herself and President Ikeda.
All ofher chanting and prayers had led her to see this and suddenly
she "got it" and tears began to flow down her cheeks. Her receiver
was turned on."
For the love of the mentor: "Open your heart to president Ikeda!"
http://www.cebunet.com/sgi/mentorlove.jpg
http://www.cebunet.com/sgi/lovementor.htm
http://news.sg-eye.com
http://www.sg-eye.com
The US Congress investigates the criminal and unethical antics of
http://www.house.gov/reform/hearings/07.27.00/felonies_and_favors.htm
http://news.sg-eye.com
The SGI-USA CULT bastardizes Buddhism: members pray for temples to close
http://www.cebunet.com/sgi/distortion.htm
http://www.sg-eye.com
http://www.cebunet.com/sgi/chicagodir.htm
When priests stimulate themselves in toilets, their
good-natured brethren poke fun at them with 'benjoo
shooganku' (perfect enlightenment in the restroom), or
'benjoo keraku' (divine pleasure and happiness in the restroom).
Excited priests invented drinking games that shocked even
the most progressive criminal gangs in the pre-World War
II bars. In the game 'jushoku kanchoo' (the responsible post
of chief monk), a tipsy priest would leap up, unleash his organ,
and bounce it onto his startled neighbor's head. The bar rocked
with laughter. >etc
"I can't tell you how many people are turned off by
the idolatry of Ikeda. Our puhlications are embarassing."
Brian Holly
"I keep reading the little bits they put into the [new]Human Revolution and sometimes I
enjoy them and other times I am absolutely appalled by them. The only way I
can get through such passages is to rationalize them as written to please his
audience -- which is seeking such a hero."
Chris Holte
"We will study the Daishonin's teachings and President Ikeda's speeches as
means to correctly understand Buddhism."
Chicago Vice gen Dir Guy McCloskey
Chicago Headquarters Temple related Mtgs Report
Wed, 11 Aug 1999
"I think your sentiments are right on target, especially
concerning the massive proportion of column inches devoted to
Pres. Ikeda in the WT. A typical issue will have a lengthy speech,
an episode of the autohagiographic "New Human Revolution," a page of his
reminiscences, and maybe a photo he took taking up the whole back page. It's
embarassing. I don't dare use the WT for shakkubuku, even when
the non-Ikeda editorial content is terrific."
Brian Holly
"Many people say they have stopped subscribing to and reading the World Tribune
because they don't want to hear about the temple issue. Such people are
influenced. Increasing readership of the World Tribune will reconnect our
members to the "sun" of this Buddhism. It will also contribute to dispersing
the dark clouds hanging over our organization."
Greg Martin, Lecture on the "3 Powerful Enemies"
On the SokaSpit site
rudikazooti
2003-11-10 17:42:01 UTC
Permalink
Well like craig before i go out should i say anything about the name of
this, a thread?
Post by StraightCraig39&1/2
"As the American poet and author Robert Bly says in Imn John,
we search for a "second father" or "a second king..." "We can
each ask ourselves: Is there anyone we know or have heard of
who possesses true greatness? If so, we should leave with him
or her" Early in my youth I faced a huge test in my relationship
with President Ikeda. I loved him from the first and considered
myself his disciple. But I was very young and had no clue about
the obstacles that I would face in the future.
After aparticularly severe set back in my life, I felt that I had failed
as a disciple. Before I realized it, I was overcome with
negativity. "I have failed him;' I thought. And my heart broke.
I had to think deeply about what he really meant to me. What
is a disciple? What does a mentor think about a disciple?
I came to understand that I had a very shallow view of the
mentor- disciple relationship. When I realized that President
Ikeda's belief in me, his belief in my potential, was unconditional,
I was able to pull myself out of the depths of that hell...
I heard the mentor disciple relationship explained once as
the mentor being like a transmitter and the disciples like receivers.
President Ikeda is alwIys transmitting. It is up to us to receive the
message. Several months ago I heard a young woman describe
her struggle with the mentor-disciple relationship. She was
devoted to her practice, to kosen rufli and her members. She was
acting as a person of the same mind as the mentor. But al though
she respected President Ikeda and thought he was "a great guy" as
she put it; her heart was closed to him. And this troubled her. She
was frustrated by the fact that she "just did'nt get it." This was some
thing she pondered through many prayers. Then one night as she
was standing alone out under the stars at the Florida Nature and
Culture Center, she had an awakening, a realization. It was a matter
of trust It wasn't President Ikeda; it was her ability to open her heart
to him. Her father had been a very respected professional, but
behind closed doors he was an abuser feared by the family. She
realized that this was the "wall" between herself and President Ikeda.
All ofher chanting and prayers had led her to see this and suddenly
she "got it" and tears began to flow down her cheeks. Her receiver
was turned on."
For the love of the mentor: "Open your heart to president Ikeda!"
http://www.cebunet.com/sgi/mentorlove.jpg
http://www.cebunet.com/sgi/lovementor.htm
http://news.sg-eye.com
http://www.sg-eye.com
The US Congress investigates the criminal and unethical antics of
http://www.house.gov/reform/hearings/07.27.00/felonies_and_favors.htm
http://news.sg-eye.com
The SGI-USA CULT bastardizes Buddhism: members pray for temples to close
http://www.cebunet.com/sgi/distortion.htm
http://www.sg-eye.com
http://www.cebunet.com/sgi/chicagodir.htm
When priests stimulate themselves in toilets, their
good-natured brethren poke fun at them with 'benjoo
shooganku' (perfect enlightenment in the restroom), or
'benjoo keraku' (divine pleasure and happiness in the restroom).
Excited priests invented drinking games that shocked even
the most progressive criminal gangs in the pre-World War
II bars. In the game 'jushoku kanchoo' (the responsible post
of chief monk), a tipsy priest would leap up, unleash his organ,
and bounce it onto his startled neighbor's head. The bar rocked
with laughter. >etc
"I can't tell you how many people are turned off by
the idolatry of Ikeda. Our puhlications are embarassing."
Brian Holly
"I keep reading the little bits they put into the [new]Human Revolution and sometimes I
enjoy them and other times I am absolutely appalled by them. The only way I
can get through such passages is to rationalize them as written to please his
audience -- which is seeking such a hero."
Chris Holte
"We will study the Daishonin's teachings and President Ikeda's speeches as
means to correctly understand Buddhism."
Chicago Vice gen Dir Guy McCloskey
Chicago Headquarters Temple related Mtgs Report
Wed, 11 Aug 1999
"I think your sentiments are right on target, especially
concerning the massive proportion of column inches devoted to
Pres. Ikeda in the WT. A typical issue will have a lengthy speech,
an episode of the autohagiographic "New Human Revolution," a page of his
reminiscences, and maybe a photo he took taking up the whole back page. It's
embarassing. I don't dare use the WT for shakkubuku, even when
the non-Ikeda editorial content is terrific."
Brian Holly
"Many people say they have stopped subscribing to and reading the World Tribune
because they don't want to hear about the temple issue. Such people are
influenced. Increasing readership of the World Tribune will reconnect our
members to the "sun" of this Buddhism. It will also contribute to dispersing
the dark clouds hanging over our organization."
Greg Martin, Lecture on the "3 Powerful Enemies"
On the SokaSpit site
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